Episode 64: Terror at Collinsport

Terror_lead photo (1)_ep64


Some Dark Shadows fans wonder why it is that when the actor recast for Sam Evans makes his debut in episode 35 there is a special announcement over the opening theme but there is none for when Thayer David takes over as Matthew Morgan as of episode 38. In retrospect, given Thayer David’s stature as an actor, and especially that he is beloved by Dark Shadows fans, it would seem like quite an oversight, a blooper even.


The reason has more to do with each given character’s place in the overall story. In Shadows on the Wall, Sam Evans is given space in the introductory character sketches – within the profile for Margaret Evans, but nonetheless there is ample length devoted to the complexities of Sam’s moods and character, not to mention his place as a peripheral but key figure in the Burke Devlin story, while on the other hand the occasional presence of the Collinwood caretaker as created for the TV series appears to fulfill more of a functional role. At least that was how the first incarnation was utilized: drama and menace for Vicki’s introduction to the basement; a source of background information on the Collins family and Devlin when Vicki was asking about any possible connections with Bangor the Collinses may have had; or a narrative function where Matthew would report to Mrs. Stoddard and describe the scene of Roger’s accident.


Yet for the second instance in the past two weeks, Thayer David’s Matthew Morgan is at the forefront while making things happen and also for the second time in two weeks is appearing in back-to-back episodes – something that did not occur with George Mitchell’s Matthew Morgan. With the big change between the two incarnations having been to sacrifice the Bill Malloy character for a murder mystery, it would be reasonable to assume that Matthew must in some way have been responsible for Malloy’s death, unless one is willing to consider what Matthew did with Malloy’s body when it had washed up that night at Widow’s Hill normal.



“What’s the matter, Miss Marsh? You ain’t afraid of me, are you?”

Terror at Northfield_Bib Hadley_ep51


That’s Bib Hadley, as portrayed by actor Peter Whitney, in a 1963 episode from The Alfred Hitchcock Hour.


In his intro to the episode, Hitchcock describes Terror at Northfield as “…a story of a small town terrorized by an unknown assailant.”


Dick York stars as Sheriff Will Pearce whose job of solving the murder of first one, and then another, member of the community is compounded by the deep sense of panic eroding the trust between the townspeople over the grim prospect that there may be a killer operating in their midst.

Terror_Terror at Northfield_Sheriff Will Pearce at a crime scene (2)_ep64


Jacqueline Scott co-stars as Will’s girlfriend Susan Marsh, one of the town’s librarians who during the murder spree and while on the job alone one night is confronted with an unwelcome visit from Bib Hadley.

Terror_Terror at Northfield_Bib Hadley frightens Susan Marsh (1)_ep64


Bib Hadley’s main function is to, in the mind of the viewer at least, widen the pool of possible suspects by further unnerving Miss Marsh with a startling confession.

Terror_Terror at Northfield_Bib Hadley makes a startling confession (1)_ep64


Freelance butcher Bib Hadley frightening Susan Marsh in Terror at Northfield is somewhat similar to the way Collinwood caretaker Matthew Morgan serves as an occasional menacing presence around Victoria Winters on Dark Shadows. Incidentally, the original character name for Victoria Winters was supposed to have been Sheila March. So, Susan Marsh, Sheila March?


Perhaps you’ve wondered why it was that the makers of Dark Shadows figured that a murder mystery might have proven to be the quick fix for a sudden drop in ratings. The answer is Alfred Hitchcock, at the time every bit the iconic face of mystery/suspense as Rod Serling was for fantasy stories with a surreal twist – and because this had never been done on daytime television before. Sure, they had The Edge of Night on in the afternoons since the 1950s, but that was a Perry Mason derivative whose creator had also started the famous nighttime series; and besides, Perry Mason was the favorite of every grandmother from the Lawrence Welk generation whereas Hitchcock was a whole lot, if you’ll pardon the pun, edgier.


Further similarities between Hitchcock’s Terror at Northfield and the Dark Shadows detour down the uncertain back roads of the Bill Malloy story will be highlighted below; for now, let’s examine some of the ways in which Alfred Hitchcock may have influenced Dan Curtis as a director.


Whereas the earliest films directed by Dan Curtis appear more English overall in tone – first  his Jekyll and Hyde remake, which was even made in England, then the Hammer Films Dracula homage that was House of Dark Shadows – it is finally with the prolific run of TV movies beginning in the early 1970s that the more stateside signature style of Dan Curtis the director becomes apparent, with all those Hitchcock-patterned long shots for emphasis and effect; the latter especially becoming notable in his final Dark Shadows–related theatrical release, Night of Dark Shadows


…where Curtis is pulling a vertigo with such elaborately dizzying angles as this:

Terror_Night of Dark Shadows_Quentin returns home early_ep64


…and still again in Burnt Offerings, the proto-sequel to Night of Dark Shadows – or was Night of Dark Shadows really just a pre-make of Burnt Offerings? The truth is somewhere in between, and yet is somehow oddly both of the above.

Terror_Burnt Offerings_the Rolf's arrive at the summer mansion_ep64


Let’s take as an example Hitchcock’s 1959 masterpiece North by Northwest, where we see Roger Thornhill fleeing the UN building after realizing he has been framed for a murder that took place inside before a crowd of people.

Terror_North by Northwest_Thornhill leaves UN General Assembly building (2)_ep64


Some fans complain about the way Dan Curtis does long shots while shooting within interior sets, but this is something picked up from the same movie. Part of North by Northwest takes place in a clifftop dwelling on Mount Rushmore, the home of Phillip Vandamm, but which was in fact a set constructed in Culver City, California.

Terror_North by Northwest_living room at Vandamm's house (1A)_ep64


The set featured a cantilevered living room, with generous helpings of limestone…

Terror_North by Northwest_living room at Vandamm's house (3)_ep64


…so one shouldn’t criticize a director for wanting to show this off in full.

Terror_North by Northwest_living room at Vandamm's house (4A)_ep64


By the time Dan Curtis was winding down with his days as an executive producer for daytime television and getting ready to explore the life of a film director full time, mainstream television had already been incorporating the stylistic nuances of cinematography pioneered by Hitchcock in the previous decade.


Odds Against Donald Jordan is a 1969 episode of Mannix by a director who had a rather short career as a television director, some say mercifully so.

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_Stuart Hagmann director's credit_ep64


To say the least, Hagmann’s style could aptly be described as busy, as indicated by the opening scene which begins with a Charlotte’s Web ceiling cam…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_opening scene (1)_ep64


…and then switches to floor level for a more conventional two-shot…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_opening scene (2)_ep64


…followed by the obligatory tight close-ups…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_opening scene (3)_ep64


…for dramatic emphasis…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_opening scene (4)_ep64


..before leaping back up into Charlotte’s Web.

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_opening scene (5)_ep64


The scene builds into a fight sequence…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_fight sequence (6A)_ep64


…which through Stuart Hagmann’s active lens quickly comes to resemble something akin to a bad acid trip…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_fight sequence (1)_ep64


…with the height of the angle constantly in flux…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_fight sequence (2)_ep64


…while as Jordan flees his assailants…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_fight sequence (4)_ep64


…Hagmann just flips the angle upside down…

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_fight sequence (5)_ep64


…and then it’s time for the opening credits.

Terror_Mannix_Odds Against Donald Jordan_opening title frame (1)_ep64


Anyone still in doubt over Stuart Hagmann’s likely influence on Dan Curtis as a director is referred to the following comparison of each director’s respective technique as it relates to actor close-ups utilizing for sweeping effect a dramatic zooming in…


…first with Stuart Hagmann in the above scene from Mannix, where the camera moves in so close on the actor’s face that the lens appears to “bend” with a somewhat nauseating distorted facial effect…

Mannix_Odds Against_GIF_ep64


…then with Dan Curtis the following year in a scene from House of Dark Shadows, with a similarly woozy effect on the viewer.

House of Dark Shadows_Barnabas Bites Carolyn_GIF_ep64


Then there’s a 1975 episode of The Rockford Files called Charlie Harris at Large, where Jim Rockford is called upon to help an old associate who may have been framed for murder.


While Rockford is visiting Charlie Harris at his hideout…

Terror_Rockford Files_Charlie Harris at Large_Jim visits old associate Charlie Harris (1)_ep64


…the viewer is treated to a bug’s eye view…


“This is a real nice hideout.”

Terror_Rockford Files_Charlie Harris at Large_Jim visits old associate Charlie Harris (2)_ep64


…and then another…


“I should’ve known you’d go first class, even as a fugitive.”

Terror_Rockford Files_Charlie Harris at Large_Jim visits old associate Charlie Harris (3)_ep64


…before finally getting back to sea level.

Terror_Rockford Files_Charlie Harris at Large_Jim visits old associate Charlie Harris (4)_ep64


Yet the above Rockford Files episode was directed not by Stuart Hagmann, but by Russ Mayberry – a mainstream talent who over several prolific decades directed at least one episode of any show you could possibly name from the first thirty years or so of the era of television, a testament to how those directorial long shots innovated by the likes of Hitchcock had indeed become a “thing” over time, which a director like Dan Curtis should not be blamed for making use of.


It should therefore come as no surprise that Dan Curtis would embrace Hitchcock, at least in terms of story content, during his earliest days with Dark Shadows. Not everyone working on the show at the time was on board, however – most notably Thayer David.


Recall from episode 51 the questionable behavior of Roger Collins, who seemed to have more extensive prior knowledge of Bill Malloy’s fate than anyone – excepting of course Matthew Morgan. There’s the moment when Roger urges Elizabeth to go upstairs to bed, but she instead goes to Matthew’s cottage to have a word with the caretaker about what he saw or might have seen along the rocks beneath Widow’s Hill. After Elizabeth has stepped out of the drawing room, Roger goes to the phone to make a call.


“Hello, Evans? I wanted to know if you had had any word from our friend, Bill Malloy…”

Roger telephones Sam Evans in episode 51_ep64


The viewer is left to wonder what such a momentary diversion could possibly accomplish, and the answer is nothing at all because it was only created to give Joan Bennett time to get to the set for Matthew’s cottage, from which the remainder of Act II is allowed to resume.


It is during this interval where Thayer David can be heard grumbling in loud whispers from the nearby set about how displeased he was about his first job on Dark Shadows.


Dan Curtis had just learned from production colleagues that Thayer wasn’t enthusiastic about what he was expected to bring across in his portrayal of Matthew Morgan, because of who the character was now based on since he came on board to replace George Mitchell.


Below are clips termed “hidden audio” which require the use of headphones as well as significantly high speaker volume to be heard.


In the following, Dan gets on the control room microphone alerting episode director John Sedwick to remind Thayer what they are looking for.


Dan: Remind Thayer it’s important he’s got to play it with real chops.


John Sedwick: Thayer, we need you to play the role of Matthew with great menace.

Thayer: I know that!


Thayer: I hate Bib Hadley!

Thayer David as Matthew Morgan in episode 51_middle of Act II_ep64


Nevertheless, a job is a job.


Episode 64 finds Matthew Morgan at the Blue Whale waiting for Burke Devlin to show up. One would think he might have a better chance of finding Devlin sooner by waiting in the lobby of the Collinsport Inn, or even going up to knock on his door. Matthew will explain to the sheriff during this episode that he wouldn’t want for Mrs. Stoddard to find out about what happened at the Blue Whale, so that’s why he causes a violent confrontation in a public place with a room full of witnesses.


If the viewer has wondered whether Matthew Morgan and Roger Collins may have been in cahoots as a dangerous double act in the disappearance and death of Bill Malloy, episode 64 throws a teaser into play.


“Who sent you here, Roger Collins?”

Terror_Matthew and Burke at the Blue Whale_Act II_ep64


Matthew reiterates the threats he made back in episode 38.


“You’re out of your mind!”

Terror_Matthew tries forcing Burke to listen_Act I_ep64


Burke thus far has accused one other Collinwood resident of being out of his mind during a heated confrontation, Roger Collins back in episode 20.


“You’re out of your mind!”

Roger knocks Burke's drink away_ep20


The scene Matthew subsequently causes at the Blue Whale brings the sheriff in to break it up, and both Matthew and Burke get hauled down to the station.


“You gonna arrest me sheriff?”

Terror_Matthew faces the sheriff_ep64


So, the overriding question presented by this episode seems to center on whether Burke should be justified in believing that Matthew may have been put up to something by Roger Collins, the implication of which would make both Matthew and Roger prime suspects in the disappearance and death of Bill Malloy.


“Collinwood breeds murderers…”

Terror_Matthew insists running Burke out of town was his own idea_ep64


Yet, as is the case so often in these early Dark Shadows episodes, there is room for the occasional levity brought with light comic relief.


“What did you do that for?”

Terror_Burke in the sheriff's office (1)_Act IV_ep64


Given that Matthew is beginning to look and act like a prime suspect along with Roger, it’s time for Sam Evans to be ruled out once and for all, which Burke does here for the viewer.


“If it wasn’t Evans, it has to be Roger Collins…”

Terror_Burke in the sheriff's office (2)_Act IV_ep64


Burke has half the puzzle solved, at least in terms of how the writers were approaching the story arc before Dan Curtis decided that Louis Edmonds was simply too good of an actor to let go by having his character killed off as originally planned.


The other half of the puzzle is “a half-crazy caretaker” as Burke in this episode refers to Matthew Morgan, Collinsport’s answer to Bib Hadley who tonight was out “having himself a time” at the Blue Whale, all in the sacred name of Collins.

Terror_scene 1 dissolve to Blue Whale_ep64


Dark Shadows extras:

Ann Leeman and Allan Lindstrom are making their second of three consecutive episode appearances as Blue Whale customers.

Dark Shadows extras_Ann Leeman and Allan Lindstrom_Blue Whale customers (1)_ep64


Katherine Quint and Russ Karsen are the younger couple at the Blue Whale, each making their second and final episode appearance as Blue Whale customers.

Dark Shadows extras_Katherine Quint and Russ Karsen_Blue Whale customers_ep64


The other two uncredited extras at the Blue Whale include new “regular” George McCoy (top), who made his Dark Shadows debut in episode 63, and the bartender played by Bob O’Connell.

Dark Shadows extras_George McCoy_Blue Whale customer (second appearance)_ep64



The Blue Whale jukebox today is finally playing a different tune; that is, music not composed by Bob Cobert.


Unlike the trio of faux “surfing” instrumentals by the Dark Shadows composer, the instrumental featured today is right up-to-the-season contemporary, complete with vibraphones, whereas the oft-played Cobert guitar instrumentals seem more like leftovers from, say, 1961 – when such an approach would have been more fashionable (as pioneered by the British guitar group the Shadows in the 1950s).


In a word, this new instrumental is badass, and more appropriately sets the mood for the confrontation between Matthew and Burke than anything Cobert had previously supplied for the Blue Whale jukebox. Who knows, maybe Dan Curtis asked, but Cobert just couldn’t deliver; nobody’s perfect.


At first you think it might be something that Booker T and the MGs would have recorded, or some other artist from the famous Stax Records label, but the rhythm section on this is much heavier, the perfect setup for the tension that both begins and defines the scene.


“Hello, Matthew. What are you doing here?”

Terror_Burke approaches Matthew's table to ask what he's doing there_ep64


Most likely, this track was never intended for release to any of the commercial markets, but was instead more probably “library” music, the soundtrack equivalent of stock sound effects.


George Romero’s seminal zombie flick Night of the Living Dead is a prime example of the use of library music. It’s the reason you hear all these music cues that you could swear might have been played in those teen-oriented sci-fi movies of the 1950s – because they were.

Terror_Footnote_Night of the Living Dead_graveyard scene (1)_ep64


Library music was also used for such well-known TV shows from the fifties as the Adventures of Superman, only then such commonly used cues were referred to as the MUTEL Library, otherwise known as Music for Television.


The 1950s also saw the creation of the Capitol Records Hi-Q library, which was the source used for Night of the Living Dead.

Terror_Footnote_Night of the Living Dead_library music (1_large)_ep64

Terror_Footnote_Night of the Living Dead_library music (2_large)_ep64

Terror_Footnote_Night of the Living Dead_library music (4_large)_ep64


Into the 1960s, with many television shows constrained by low production budgets, library music was still a common staple. The Quinn Martin productions of that period used library music cues even for their most popular nighttime programs, including The Fugitive.


Episode from The Fugitive: Fun and Games and Party Favors (1965)

Terror_Footnote_Fun and Games_Fugitive episode_party scene GIF_ep64


While the Ford Motor Company may have paid the bills for The FBI, it still obviously wasn’t enough to cover the cost of paying for a composer, recording sessions, and union fees for musicians.


Here’s one of those rock-oriented music cues as heard in a 1967 episode called Act of Violence.

Terror_Footnote_Act of Violence_FBI episode_club scene GIF_ep64


That same type of generic, guitar-noodling rock music jam can be heard in The Invaders, right from the first episode where David Vincent is investigating strange goings-on at a hydroelectric plant in a small town. The town seems deserted save for a lone café with a working jukebox.


Those are the Ackerman girls…

Invaders_Beachhead_S1E1_Ackerman girls dancing to cafe jukebox (1)_Act III_ep64


…who would never let some alien invasion with the potential for human extinction spoil their fun.

Invaders_Beachhead_S1E1_cafe jukebox GIF_Act III_ep64


With regard to stock sound effects used on Dark Shadows, the effect used for the impact of Roger’s car accident in episode 15 is a well-traveled sound clip. Previous to Dark Shadows, it could be heard in the 1963 motion picture The Pink Panther, and before that in a 1959 episode from The Untouchables called The Underground Railway. After Dark Shadows, it could be heard in two episodes of The Odd Couple (Security Arms from 1972 and The Insomniacs from 1974).

Roger driving down the hill from Collinwood toward town_ep15


Sounds a bit like Roger crashed into a phone booth; they were all over the place in those days.


Now for the possible root inspiration Bob Cobert may have drawn on for those oft-used guitar instrumentals from the Blue Whale jukebox that a number of Dark Shadows fans seem to enjoy, while others wonder why the same three numbers are used over and over.


While the principal architects of the rock instrumental guitar groups were the musicians in England known as the Shadows (perhaps best known for backing Cliff Richard), America’s answer to this format was the Ventures, whose debut LP was released in December 1960 and went gold the following year on the strength of the title track, a top five single called Walk, Don’t Run.


If for the Blue Whale jukebox Bob Cobert wanted to research a style of guitar instrumental that would seem somewhat 1960s contemporary, he would naturally have given a listen to that first Ventures album.


There’s that up-tempo music cue Fast Blue Whale, also known as Back at the Blue Whale, which starts off like this:

Blue Whale jukebox_ep2


Those very basic opening chords sound like a slight variation of how the guitars come in for Walk, Don’t Run by the Ventures:

(The) Ventures_Walk Don't Run_album cover (front)_ep64


Then there’s Slow Blue Whale, also known as #1 At The Blue Whale, which starts off like this:

Question_Joe and Carolyn at the Blue Whale (2)_Act III_ep63


Also on that first Ventures album was a cover of Sleep Walk, a hit for Santo and Johnny in 1959. Their later reworking of the track for a Ventures greatest hits compilation sounds even closer to the Blue Whale slow dancer so shrewdly retooled from the Ventures’ earlier rendition of Sleep Walk.

(The) Ventures_Very Best of_album cover (front)_ep64


By way of guitar group the Ventures, Bob Cobert was always number one at the Blue Whale; and number two, and number three…

Dark Shadows extras_Blue Whale customer makes a jukebox selection_episode 2 (for footnote ep64)


Bloopers/Story Continuity:

In the opening scene Carolyn is pressing her mother for an explanation as to why Maggie Evans came up to Collinwood to talk to her, while a boom mic shadow is fidgeting against the top of the nearby chair.

Terror_blooper_boom mic shadow against chair_opening scene_ep64


As the discussion between Elizabeth and Carolyn gets heated in Act I, a crew member can be seen through the drawing room window passing by just outside the set.


In Act I, Joan Bennett says: “…I believe Burke intends to use poor Bur – Bill’s death…”


While Elizabeth is on the phone with Sheriff Patterson in Act II, Joan Bennett says: “He hasn’t been there – here.”


As Sheriff Patterson admonishes Burke to leave the police work to him in Act III, Dana Elcar says: “…I don’t want you going around acting judge, jury, and ectocutioner”; this must refer to the slaying of ectoplasmic forms, which, especially around Collinwood, will eventually come in quite handy on Dark Shadows – a good ectocutioner is hard to find.


Dana Elcar has another memorable gaffe in Act IV while ordering Matthew to stay away from Devlin and just tend to his job up at Collinwood: “…you work their farm for them, carry their firewood…”; Matthew, of course, works on the Collins family estate – Bib Hadley, however, worked on farms.


Food & Drink in Collinsport:

Having seated himself in the Blue Whale during episode 63, Matthew Morgan here in episode 64 has been allowing his thoughts to marinate in draft beer for a half-hour by the time Burke Devlin shows up in Act II.

Terror_Matthew at the Blue Whale with a beer_Act I_ep64


Burke joins Matthew for a drink in Act II before the scene erupts in chaos.

Terror_Burkje joins Matthew in a drink_Act II_ep64


Recommended Reading:

Joan Bennett’s 1970 autobiography (original front cover).

Joan Bennett cast member spotlight_The Bennett Playbill_front cover_ep25


The Bennetts: An Acting Family, the 2004 biography.

Joan Bennett cast member spotlight_The Bennetts An Acting Family_front cover_ep25


The Louis Edmonds biography, Big Lou.

Louis Edmonds_Big Lou (front cover)_image 3A


Recommended Listening:

In this eight-CD box set of composer Robert Cobert’s series soundtrack, every music cue used on Dark Shadows is available, including the full-length original recordings of the guitar instrumentals heard at the Blue Whale.

Dark Shadows_Soundtrack Music Collection_Front cover


Coming next: Episode 65: Bull in a Collins Shop


— Marc Masse

(aka PrisoneroftheNight)


© 2020 Marc Masse and Dark Shadows

from the Beginning. All rights reserved.

Unauthorized use and/or duplication of

the content herein is a violation of the

terms and standards as set forth under

U.S. copyright law.

7 thoughts on “Episode 64: Terror at Collinsport”

  1. Good point. Thayer’s Petofi was certainly menacing but also equaly heavy on the sophistication, wit, and charm. Must have been a lot more fun to play than boring old one dimensional Matthew Morgan.
    Wonder how Thayer liked playing Sandor!

  2. I think that would be safe to assume, especially given that Thayer himself came from a rather well-to-do social background, Harvard educated and all that, whereas Bib Hadley was after all a hillbilly.

    Wait ’till we get to the later part of the Matthew Morgan story arc, where he’s kidnapped Victoria Winters and has her locked up in that secret room at the Old House; following violent scenes between Matthew and Victoria, after a scene change you can hear Thayer talking in a low voice from the nearby set, profusely apologizing to Alexandra Moltke as he mentions how he hates having to throw her around like that. This will make for some more interesting and revealing “hidden audio” when the time comes.

    Funny, though, isn’t it? How Ben Stokes in 1795, while not a bad sort characterwise, has that same hillbilly drawl and diction as Matthew Morgan.

    Thayer David had only one hillbilly in him, but they were both very memorable.

  3. I’ll guess that he wanted the kind of role(s) that he was eventually given; erudite, worldly types like Stokes and Petofi were very much more to Thayer David’s liking, I imagine.
    But whatever the part, he always gave a memorable performance – – and if he disliked the role it never showed in his work.

  4. I’m not claiming any expertise in Gothic fiction, but I thought murder (or ‘mysterious’ death) would be fairly commonplace to the genre; but I’m guessing that the misdeeds were more the family skeletons, having happened long ago (except when there was a crazy relative locked up in the attic, of course.)

    But this episode does seem to be firming up the murderer, though I’m sure there’s still a red herring to toss around… or at least a filigreed pen? 😳

  5. That new music made me sit up and take notice when I first heard it. I believe there’s some more new Blue Whale music in the next episode as well.

  6. I don’t get why Thayer would be reluctant to play Matthew Morgan with great menace. I should think any actor would relish the chance to go all in portraying a menacing character. Was Thayer worried about being typecast as a baddie. Don’t tell me he wanted to be the romantic lead.

  7. Okay, Bib Hadley sounds actually creepy, what with his enjoying killing animals.

    Even though I watched Dark Shadows from day one I don’t really remember George Mitchell’s Matthew Morgan. Even if he hated the role Thayer David made a huge impression, which George Mitchell did not. it was a great recast.

Comments are closed.